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And customers continue to step up and hand them cash. Maybe we're training cellphone manufacturers to force us to upgrade all the time? Why are there people lining up around the block waiting for the latest iPhone? It's the consumer that's driving this, not the cellphone companies.

and keep buying this trash. It's the same reason people are okay with spyware devices in and on their homes that spy on them and everyone they meet. It's the same reason people keep grifters like Fuckerburg in business. They follow the flock.

People who know better like us, are then left with no viable options. Good luck starting your own vertically integrated competitor - you'll need billions.

Now let's get to a lifespan longer than 3 years and we'll be accomplishing something.

Buy an iPhone if you want a longer lifespan than 3 years. My 2016 iPhone 7+ is running the latest version of iOS fully supported by Apple.

Actually replacing parts in devices like that is hard and getting harder. Very few phone owners have the skills to succeed. Repair technicians need to be able to stock parts

Yeah, when they said you had to buy an entire assembly instead of just the screen at first I thought they meant Samsung was starting to make higher end phones more modular, with assemblies that could be snapped out and replaced by normal people. That would be neat and useful, and replace the need for third party phone repair companies, although I'm guessing it's impractical due to the added space it would require for the joints and connectors, tolerances are already very tight on a smartphone.

Moto commits to making parts available for three years minimum, and they are readily available.

And you can get an unlocked phone with zero crapware on the system partition, with a 3.5mm jack. (You may have to uninstall a couple of apps from the user partition, but you can actually uninstall them.)

Further, unless there are restrictions on the SoC itself, they still offer bootloader unlocking.

Why? You have so far not mentioned a single Motorola feature I care about. Maybe *you* should not give Samsung money if their phone doesn't suit *your* individual needs.

Samsungs have been successfully repaired by Children, it is just that easy, and the costs are minimal.

They are starting to change their tune on that but doing in their own, Apple sorta way Apple Shipped Me a 79-pound iPhone Repair Kit to fix a 1.1-ounce battery [theverge.com]

Apple also gets knock on benefit due to their popularity. There has never been a lack of cheap knockoff repair parts for iPhones but Androids have been hit and miss.

I'm guessing you're just playing on slashdot's unreasonable hatred of everything Apple.

I'm guessing you're just playing on slashdot's unreasonable hatred of everything Apple.

Exactly. Mentioning Apple gets a cacophony of hatred for things that are universal, usually under some "right to repair" rubric. Yet not a mention of the other phones.

Maybe our RTR guys need a PiPhone: https://www.raspberrypi.com/ne... [raspberrypi.com] or https://projects-raspberry.com... [projects-raspberry.com] .

I've repaired over, oh, 75 Apple phones, as well as a few iPads, and once you get the hang of it, after a phone or two, you don't even really need instructions for different models.

I've repaired over, oh, 75 Apple phones, as well as a few iPads, and once you get the hang of it, after a phone or two, you don't even really need instructions for different models.

You do have more experience than me there. I do some phones, and a lot of radios and iMac stuff. And you are right about the design philosophy.

In fact, I prefer not to fix non-Apple phones because they're inconsistent and take longer.

In fact, I prefer not to fix non-Apple phones because they're inconsistent and take longer.

I've found for those, I try to find a YT video of a teardown, for fear of making things wo

lost Qualcomm as a fab customer, lost their own socket to Qualcomm, struggling improve NAND layers meanwhile Micron and SK Hynix are up around 236+ layers

Oh yeah Samsung's dying! I just Googled it and .... "Samsung Electronics reported its financial results for Q2 2022, with record second-quarter revenues of 77.2 trillion Won ($59 billion USD). "

Wait that can't be right. Did you leave some words out? Did you mean dying with laughter while rolling around making record amounts of money?

perhaps i was a bit hyperbolic in my phrasing, but check this out, perhaps you'll find it intereseting. perhaps not.

Samsung Electronics Cultural Issues Are Causing Disasters In Samsung Foundry, LSI, And Even DRAM Memory [substack.com]

Having been down the road of getting my phone repaired by someone who wasn't a distributor / authorised repairer and then dropped my phone in water and being told "We'd fix your screen, but we never said we'd make your phone waterproof again"...

I want to see / know that they're providing the same glue / seal kits that they use in the factory as opposed to whatever the third party repairers are forced to use. While the back of my phone might fit onto the case again, it's not providing a waterproof seal. I wa

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